Prof. Fred Brown
press conference
01.04.24
Outline Report by: Jonathan Miller, (Journalist)

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Subject: Professor Fred Brown's visit to London

These are my quick notes of the meetings with Professor Fred Brown in London. Present were Professor Fred Brown from the US FMD Centre at Plum Island(formerly Deputy Director of Pirbright Animal Virus Research Institute) who visited London yesterday and attended one meeting at the CLA and a press conference at Central Hall Westminster. 

The first was at the Country Landowners Association. 
On the panel were also:
Dr Ruth Watkins, Clinical Virologist,
Dr Jim Hutchinson, Clinical Microbiologist
Richard Row, (vets for vaccination)Veterinarian
and a representative from MAFF Lindsay Harris

In the audience was:
Dr Keith Sumption (who wrote the original paper on vaccination)
Christopher Bourchier of the Crown Estates
David Hewitt and Lucy Andrews of the Holstein Society
David Smith of the British Retail Consortium
Dr Helen Szamuely of Honest Food
George Dunn of the Tenant Farmers Association
Iain Kerr of the National Beef Association
James Black of the National Pig Association
Jim Begg of the Dairy Industry Federation
Lambit Opik MP a Member of the Agriculture Committee
Martin Haworth of the NFU
Patrick Holden of the Soil Association
Rhiannon Davies of the Royal Agricultural Society of England
Richard Sibley of the British Cattle Veterinary Association
Lawrence Woodward of the Elm Farm Research Centre
Rob Macklin of the National Trust
Robert Foster of the National Beef Association
Richard Lutwycke of the Rare Breeds Survival Trust
Tim Collins MP for Kendal
Tony Mitchell Jones for English Nature
Colin Fink of Micropathology at University of Warwick Science Park
And
Members of the CLA team - Caroline Cranbook
and others were also present.

Questions were asked
and the panel answered them. 
The following subjects were covered: 

Fred Brown stated generally that he had been VERY surprised by many of the statements coming out of Pirbright over the last weeks (this is code for Pirbright misinformation!). He said there was no scientific support for many of these statements. He was also horrified by the mass culling of, as he put it, 'innocent' animals. 

Later, to support the constant stream of misinformation Lawrence Woodward stated that he had seen Pirbright make a 100% U-turn in front of the prime minister on 'carrier' status in animals in the course of one and half hours - from carriers being a big risk to carriers not being a significant risk at all. 

Fred Brown and Plum Island together with a commercial company offered Pirbright a testing kit for the presence of FMD virus to be used on farms at the beginning of the epidemic. It was refused. (see letter from company at: www.FarmTalking.co.uk - Message Board). The kit was extremely sensitive to the presence of the virus. On adjacent farms to an outbreak it would have been possible to detect the virus within 2-3 hours at the farm gate. It follows that there would have been no need to do the blanket three kilometer ring cull. The practical way to have done this would have been to take swabs from all animals on a farm, combine them as one sample and test. In any one animal lesion there would be billions of virus but the test kit would have picked up just the presence of 100 virus in such a combined sample so it was extremely sensitive and accurate. 

(See also the data on UBInc. At:
www.SilentMajority.co.UK/FootInMouth 

As Fred said, & I quote:
"It was a beautiful piece of kit, simple and not costly. This would have had a dramatic effect on the amount of 'innocent' animals to have been culled".

Vaccinated animals were safe for human consumption. As evidence they had been eaten and their products such as milk drunk without any adverse effects for 40years on the continent before the ban on vaccination started in the early 90's. In any event all virus in a vaccine is dead 'killed' virus - just a protein. 

The case of a human being getting infected was extremely rare - in our current case an animal fell from a lorry and burst squirting liquid directly into the man's face. 

The 'carrier' status of animals was also discussed at length. Fred confirmed that no re-infection of other animals had taken place in tests. Naive animals and vaccinated carriers had been penned together and it was very difficult to get infection. He only knew of one case in the past which featured a Waterbuffalo in Africa! 

The question of vaccines not being effective was discussed.

Fred said that even in tests where huge amounts of live virus had been directly put into a vaccinated animals mouth (many more times than would be expected in a real situation) the results were negative. There was no evidence that they don't work. 

Fred also stated that the effects of vaccination were dramatic. The continent had experienced 100,000's of cases of FMD a year prior to vaccination being banned in the early '90's. When vaccination was used the effects were dramatic and disease free status was quickly gained. 

The same applied to many countries around the world - it was the modern thing to do. Culling was fine in small outbreaks but MAFF should have realised very quickly that this was a huge outbreak where tracing the contacts was impossible due to too many animal movements and therefore could not be contained through culling only. 

Vaccination should have started in the first one to two weeks. This was also the recommendation of the Northampton Report from '68. 

The USA, seeing what had gone wrong in the UK, had suddenly woken up to the threat of FMD and was taking the FMD crisis very seriously. They were seriously considering vaccination now. They would not repeat the UK's mistakes. 

Fred said that 'disease free status' was always a myth. It could not be supported any longer particularly in the new world- trading situation and was pointless in any event. What were the benefits? The possible exposure to the huge disruption such as we now experience was unacceptable. 

Tests now existed for distinguishing vaccinated antibodies in an animal from an infected animal. Even Pirbright (remember Pirbright saying you could not distinguish vaccinates from infected animals!) had invented such a test in the last few years as had several other institutions such as Fred's own Plum Island and the EU.

So we should be able to grant disease free status (if we still need it) in a much shorter time now that we can test. Remember it is one year from last vaccinate or last cull to to get back your disease free status unless you cull, and then it is three months. 

Fred also confirmed that the vaccinations work equally well in all species and that there was no special problems with sheep or pigs. The head of the Sheep Association stated he had been to Pirbright to ask this question and had been specifically told by them that vaccine did not work in sheep. Fred and others then discussed the misinformation coming out of Pirbright. 

The so called difficulties of the logistical issues for sheep vaccination were extremely questionable since most sheep - up to 50% - were vaccinated for other diseases every year. Why not for FMD virus and with a special effort which every farmer would make, near 100% could be reached in a matter of days. Lindsay Harris of MAFF said it would take 2 years (raised eyebrows all round!) 

Availability of vaccine was another issue covered where Fred Brown said the US had large stocks which could be used along with the Pirbright and EU stocks. Commercial companies can make them too. 

Questioned on whether it was too late now for vaccination he said that he would still do it especially in the hot spots. The infection will go on popping up - you do not know where. This was due to the sheep having had it for much longer than previously thought. 

Animals shed virus days before you can see symptoms. Cattle shed huge amounts. And in the '68 epidemic when cattle moved out to spring pasture they were very prone to infection from the soil due to FMD in it from sheep wintered previously. This was a threat that could be easily averted by vaccination. Prevention was better than cure. 

Fred Brown stated that he was in favour of a move towards mass vaccination because it had been shown over the years to be the very best way to tackle any type of virus - human or animal. The huge medical successes of the past century had been the development of vaccines - why don't we use them? Ruth Watkins and Jim Hutchinson both agreed. 

I hope to improve these notes with others who were present.
Peter Kindersley. 

END 

It is our opinion that there would be everything to gain and virtually NO risk to implementing a vaccination policy – Dr. Richard North PhD [UKIP] has more than adequately shown that a vaccine programme rather than the mindless slaughter would in fact restore Britain’s F&M free status MORE rapidly.

We would contend that The NFU who are ‘performing’ for the EU as are the Government and MAFF have little credibility in relation to the great majority of livestock farmers and a very tenuous attachment to the realities or truth of livestock farming or for that matter livestock farmers. The NFU membership being not only a minority of farmers but a clear minority of farmers involved in livestock.

The clouding of the public perception of the state of opinion of livestock farmers being achieved by three things:
1)	The willingness of certain areas of the media to pander to the £20Million per month being spent by Labour on advertising (over £60,000,000 so far this year making Labour the largest single advertiser in Britain in the run up to a probable election!!).

2)	The seemingly excessive degree of co-ercion being put on certain livestock farmers, against their will by MAFF etc.

3)	The seemingly over generous compensation being received by some farmers sometimes, we understand linked to agreements to quit farming!!!

Public opinion is thus led to believe that matters are far from the truth. Just as the public is being led to believe that disposal of carcasses by either burial or burning is of no danger!! It is of course obvious to an enquiring mind that burial is a great danger to the water table etc. hence it is more than frowned on by both environmentalists and The Government’s masters in the EU and burning of course is producing dangerous levels not only of particulates but also dioxins and that is not even to consider the certainty of spreading both F&M virus more widely but of distributing the prions of BSE on an unprotected public.

The Government and its agents have endeavoured to mislead the public on the true timing of this F&M outbreak and its source, based on the plethora of evidence and reportage. It is now clear that The Government and its agents firstly seemed to lead the public to believe there was NO danger of Foot & Mouth being contracted by humans. In the light of the 3 suspected cases known so far and the additional two rumoured to us earlier this week of children, their position is now to fail to give the facts in the reports currently shown on this web site and placed there some time ago!

A measure of the integrity of the Government handling of this/the F&M outbreak is their attempt to besmirch the reputation of a Chinese restaurant with NO evidence! Mr. Brown clearly stated in his references to pigswill and its banning, which is in Hansard, his conviction that the source of the F&M outbreak came from illegaly imported meat via an all but named Chinese retaurant to Bobby Waugh’s farm at Heddon on the Wall – would that he had given due prominence to the word ‘may’ which he used in the same entry in Hansard!!

When questioned about the source being a research establishment either Pirbright or Porton Down his documented response in Hansard was equally weasle worded making the probability of this F&M, or at least one of the F&M outbreaks current, a Government responsibility far more apparent than they would wish the public to believe!

It is becoming daily more apparent to the public at large that far from telling the truth let alone the whole truth the present Government is obfuscating and dissembling on virtually all aspects of this/these F&M outbreak(s). The Government is patently contradictory in many of its utterances, actions and policies relative to F&M as it carries out the instructions of its masters The European Union, hugely to the advantage of continental livestock producers and massively damaging to Britain’s Livestock Industry and the British economy and the peoples of Britain.

The attempts to comply, un-noticed, with the EU’s policy in the destruction of the British Livestock Industry has even sunk so low that The Foreign secretary endeavoured to quell the news of F&M by making an overtly racist speech defamatory of and inflammatory to the peoples of Britain; aided and abetted by their lackey the CRE, who would of course be out of a job if they could not show cause for their existence by racial incitement!

The fact that Tiny Blur’s cohorts can point to good opinion polls could be credible under one of three scenarios:

1)	The polls are wrong by intent of the Pollsters by wording of the questions or skewed sampling.

2)	The Polls reflect the fact that less Labour (Lib.Dim. alliance) supporters have ex-directory telephone numbers.

3)	The oppositions perceived position is as implausible as the Government’s is awful with their “In Europe but not ruled by Europe” media speak LIE being so transparent that EVERYONE has seen through it.

We would opine that never in modern history have British politicians been so unrepresentative of the peoples as they are today, with some 650 MPs, (there being less than 25percent of the British peoples being in favour of Britain’s membership of the EU [according to the EU’s own web site!!]) – there is only ONE MP who has consistently represented the peoples by espousing Britain should leave the EU.

The British economy is performing better than most of our major competitors on the Continent, our unemployment is also lower and falling, home ownership is higher and on a number of indicators Britain is doing better than our continental competitors, despite being ruled by the EU, yet where is the ‘feel good factor’?

To comply with EU diktat we are slaughtering and putting at risk millions of animals needlessly, we are following the diktat of our main competitors in the Livestock Industry on a route to that very industry’s destruction. To comply with the EU’s diktat we are endangering our peoples with dioxins and the prions of BSE. The EU is directly responsible for the demise of our Fishing Industry and our fish stocks, our Steel Industry and our Motor Industry and the demise of our Aircraft Industry and Mines is in no small part the result of EU diktat. 

We are in many ways fighting for our identity and our democracy yet it is our own Politicians who are colluding with the EU in their destructions with Imperial Measurements threatened by EU diktat, our entire body of Law suborned to EU diktat even OUR Monarch being effectively no more than Souzereign to The Council of Europe!

Although Britain has attracted more inward investment than the whole of Continental EU put together and has made more investments overseas than continental EU also. There is still no ‘feel good factor’ amongst our peoples.

Whether you are domicile in Wales, Scotland or some other region black, Asian or a funny pink despite all the positive indicators if you are British you must have great disquiet at the systematic destruction of our country. That you have a more than nagging realisation of the history and aims of the EU it is hardly surprising that there is no ‘feel good factor’ when ones identity is denigrated, ones history is ridiculed and the sacrifices of ones ancestors are debased. The nation is depressed and rightly so at the reality of being ruled by an alien foreign power betrayed by our own politicians.

Is the Government so stupid or is it so arrogantly hubristic that it either doesn’t realise or doesn’t care that inward investment to Britain will be severely damaged by their subservience to rule by the EU. The compulsory use of metric measurements alone will severely damage Britain’s trading relationship with America, our largest trading partner, when you think that WallMart alone estimate that the cost of compliant packaging will cost them $6-8 Billion per annum!! If they proceed with their planned massive investment in Britain it will be the British consumer who will have to foot this bill – one could understand investors in Britain questioning further investment in our country! 

WallMart is not alone! The costs of conversion to comply with the EU will cost companies Billions and it will be you and I who will have to pay! One has only to look at the 100s of Billions being spent in preparation for the implications of adopting the Euro when some surveys show that OVER 90 percent of our peoples reject surrendering the Pound and placing our economy under the control of a foreign power – hardly surprising when one catalogues the damage done to Britain by our membership of the EU.

That British politicians could so systematically betray the democratic wishes of the peoples and surrender our country to foreign rule at a cost of over £1,800,000 per HOUR for membership can surely only be described as Treason. Our politicians have gone so far as to flout our Constitution a Treason in itself and our Monarch is in default of Her Coronation Oath to Her peoples, the people of Britain and The Commonwealth.

Is it any wonder that our peoples are experiencing increased crime when our politicians set the example of total disregard for the law and commit Treason! Leadership and loyalty is ‘a two way street’.

Regards,
Greg
Greg Lance – Watkins
Greg@GlanceBack.Demon.co.UK

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